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  <title>125: Elixir at the Royal Bank of Canada</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Thanos Vassilakis explains how Elixir is used at @rbccm. We cover LiveView’s incredible performance, adoption, "scaling teams", and how vendor "body shops" are a limiting factor in Elixir being accepted.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;While hearing how Elixir is being used in the Royal Bank of Canada's Capital Markets, we learned a lot of extra things we didn't expect! Thanos Vassilakis, head of R&amp;amp;D in the CM group, explained how middle managers talk about “scaling” to mean hiring staff with the goal of using all of their budgets. Not the kind of scaling we typically think about! Thanos identified the biggest problem limiting Elixir's adoption at large financial institutions and it wasn't what we expected. He also shared stories of how LiveView greatly out performed React when rendering hundreds of live updating financial charts and, after experimenting with it, the React devs fully adopted LiveView! Lots of great insights and stories in this one!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Show Notes online - &lt;a href="http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/125" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/125&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Elixir Community News&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://phoenixframework.org/blog/phoenix-1.7-released" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://phoenixframework.org/blog/phoenix-1.7-released&lt;/a&gt; – Phoenix 1.7.0-rc.0 released!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/chris_mccord/status/1589721565692067840" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://twitter.com/chris_mccord/status/1589721565692067840&lt;/a&gt; – Chris McCord's Twitter announcement&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix/blob/v1.7.0-rc.0/CHANGELOG.md" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix/blob/v1.7.0-rc.0/CHANGELOG.md&lt;/a&gt; – Phoenix 1.7.0-rc.0 changelog&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-rqBLjr5Eo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-rqBLjr5Eo&lt;/a&gt; – Chris McCord's keynote&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/clarkware/status/1587894081572569089" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://twitter.com/clarkware/status/1587894081572569089&lt;/a&gt; – Mike Clark shows how params can be added in embedded in Sigil P routes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://hex.pm/packages/heroicons" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://hex.pm/packages/heroicons&lt;/a&gt; – Heroicons&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://github.com/mtrudel/bandit" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://github.com/mtrudel/bandit&lt;/a&gt; – Alternative webservers like Bandit become possible&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/bernheisel/status/1589803460320710656" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://twitter.com/bernheisel/status/1589803460320710656&lt;/a&gt; – David's diff of for going to new Phoenix 1.7&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://utils.zest.dev/gendiff" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://utils.zest.dev/gendiff&lt;/a&gt; – David's free Diff Generator tool for Phoenix projects&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/josevalim/status/1589738157196869634" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://twitter.com/josevalim/status/1589738157196869634&lt;/a&gt; – Jose Valim's summation of new Phoenix release&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOeONt6Hkf8&amp;amp;list=PLqj39LCvnOWbmaPrkGCAzFMC_FYZUkmSr&amp;amp;index=15" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOeONt6Hkf8&amp;amp;list=PLqj39LCvnOWbmaPrkGCAzFMC_FYZUkmSr&amp;amp;index=15&lt;/a&gt; – New batch of ElixirConf 2022 videos were released&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Do you have some Elixir news to share? Tell us at &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/ThinkingElixir" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@ThinkingElixir&lt;/a&gt; or email at &lt;a href="mailto:show@thinkingelixir.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;show@thinkingelixir.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Discussion Resources&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.rbccm.com/en/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.rbccm.com/en/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://shapeshift.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://shapeshift.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_(programming_language)" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_(programming_language)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Armstrong_(programmer)" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Armstrong_(programmer)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_(programming_language)" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_(programming_language)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miranda_(programming_language)" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miranda_(programming_language)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/capitalmarkets.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/capitalmarkets.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/financialrisk.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/financialrisk.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://couchdb.apache.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://couchdb.apache.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.ericsson.com/en" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.ericsson.com/en&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E15261_01/tuxedo/docs11gr1/tech_articles/CORBA.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E15261_01/tuxedo/docs11gr1/tech_articles/CORBA.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/Programming-Erlang-Concurrent-Pragmatic-Programmers/dp/193778553X" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.amazon.com/Programming-Erlang-Concurrent-Pragmatic-Programmers/dp/193778553X&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.postgresql.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.postgresql.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/absinthe-graphql/absinthe" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://github.com/absinthe-graphql/absinthe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/lasp-lang/partisan" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://github.com/lasp-lang/partisan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/devinus/poolboy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://github.com/devinus/poolboy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://docs.python.org/3/library/multiprocessing.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://docs.python.org/3/library/multiprocessing.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://openwhisk.apache.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://openwhisk.apache.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.drools.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.drools.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rete_algorithm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rete_algorithm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://sqlite.org/src4/doc/trunk/www/bt.wiki" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://sqlite.org/src4/doc/trunk/www/bt.wiki&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.honeybadger.io/blog/elixir-memory-structure/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.honeybadger.io/blog/elixir-memory-structure/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://docs.python.org/3/library/multiprocessing.shared_memory.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://docs.python.org/3/library/multiprocessing.shared_memory.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/membraneframework/shmex" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://github.com/membraneframework/shmex&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://semiengineering.com/the-rise-of-smartnics/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://semiengineering.com/the-rise-of-smartnics/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/networking/ethernet-adapters/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/networking/ethernet-adapters/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/networking/products/data-processing-unit/hpc/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/networking/products/data-processing-unit/hpc/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/zeroc-ice/ice" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://github.com/zeroc-ice/ice&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/afiniate/seresye" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://github.com/afiniate/seresye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Guest Information&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/thanos_tweets" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://twitter.com/thanos_tweets&lt;/a&gt; – on Twitter&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[&lt;a href="mailto:thanos.vassilakis@rbccm.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;thanos.vassilakis@rbccm.com&lt;/a&gt;](&lt;a href="mailto:thanos.vassilakis@rbccm.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;thanos.vassilakis@rbccm.com&lt;/a&gt;) – Email&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.rbccm.com/en/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.rbccm.com/en/&lt;/a&gt; – Royal Bank of Canada Capital Markets&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://elixirforum.com/u/thanos/summary" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://elixirforum.com/u/thanos/summary&lt;/a&gt; – Thanos on Elixir Forum&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Find us online&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Message the show - &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/ThinkingElixir" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@ThinkingElixir&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Email the show - &lt;a href="mailto:show@thinkingelixir.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;show@thinkingelixir.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mark Ericksen - &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/brainlid" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@brainlid&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;David Bernheisel - &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/bernheisel" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@bernheisel&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cade Ward - &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/cadebward" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@cadebward&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>elixir, phoenix, live view, LiveView, finance, bank, rbc, capital markets</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>While hearing how Elixir is being used in the Royal Bank of Canada&#39;s Capital Markets, we learned a lot of extra things we didn&#39;t expect! Thanos Vassilakis, head of R&amp;D in the CM group, explained how middle managers talk about “scaling” to mean hiring staff with the goal of using all of their budgets. Not the kind of scaling we typically think about! Thanos identified the biggest problem limiting Elixir&#39;s adoption at large financial institutions and it wasn&#39;t what we expected. He also shared stories of how LiveView greatly out performed React when rendering hundreds of live updating financial charts and, after experimenting with it, the React devs fully adopted LiveView! Lots of great insights and stories in this one!</p>

<p>Show Notes online - <a href="http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/125" rel="nofollow">http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/125</a></p>

<p><strong>Elixir Community News</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://phoenixframework.org/blog/phoenix-1.7-released" rel="nofollow">https://phoenixframework.org/blog/phoenix-1.7-released</a> – Phoenix 1.7.0-rc.0 released!</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/chris_mccord/status/1589721565692067840" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/chris_mccord/status/1589721565692067840</a> – Chris McCord&#39;s Twitter announcement</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix/blob/v1.7.0-rc.0/CHANGELOG.md" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix/blob/v1.7.0-rc.0/CHANGELOG.md</a> – Phoenix 1.7.0-rc.0 changelog</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-rqBLjr5Eo" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-rqBLjr5Eo</a> – Chris McCord&#39;s keynote</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/clarkware/status/1587894081572569089" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/clarkware/status/1587894081572569089</a> – Mike Clark shows how params can be added in embedded in Sigil P routes</li>
<li><a href="https://hex.pm/packages/heroicons" rel="nofollow">https://hex.pm/packages/heroicons</a> – Heroicons</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/mtrudel/bandit" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/mtrudel/bandit</a> – Alternative webservers like Bandit become possible</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/bernheisel/status/1589803460320710656" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/bernheisel/status/1589803460320710656</a> – David&#39;s diff of for going to new Phoenix 1.7</li>
<li><a href="https://utils.zest.dev/gendiff" rel="nofollow">https://utils.zest.dev/gendiff</a> – David&#39;s free Diff Generator tool for Phoenix projects</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/josevalim/status/1589738157196869634" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/josevalim/status/1589738157196869634</a> – Jose Valim&#39;s summation of new Phoenix release</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOeONt6Hkf8&list=PLqj39LCvnOWbmaPrkGCAzFMC_FYZUkmSr&index=15" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOeONt6Hkf8&amp;list=PLqj39LCvnOWbmaPrkGCAzFMC_FYZUkmSr&amp;index=15</a> – New batch of ElixirConf 2022 videos were released</li>
</ul>

<p>Do you have some Elixir news to share? Tell us at <a href="https://twitter.com/ThinkingElixir" rel="nofollow">@ThinkingElixir</a> or email at <a href="mailto:show@thinkingelixir.com" rel="nofollow">show@thinkingelixir.com</a></p>

<p><strong>Discussion Resources</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.rbccm.com/en/" rel="nofollow">https://www.rbccm.com/en/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://shapeshift.com/" rel="nofollow">https://shapeshift.com/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_(programming_language)" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_(programming_language)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Armstrong_(programmer)" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Armstrong_(programmer)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_(programming_language)" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_(programming_language)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miranda_(programming_language)" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miranda_(programming_language)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/capitalmarkets.asp" rel="nofollow">https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/capitalmarkets.asp</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/financialrisk.asp" rel="nofollow">https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/financialrisk.asp</a></li>
<li><a href="https://couchdb.apache.org/" rel="nofollow">https://couchdb.apache.org/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ericsson.com/en" rel="nofollow">https://www.ericsson.com/en</a></li>
<li><a href="https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E15261_01/tuxedo/docs11gr1/tech_articles/CORBA.html" rel="nofollow">https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E15261_01/tuxedo/docs11gr1/tech_articles/CORBA.html</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Programming-Erlang-Concurrent-Pragmatic-Programmers/dp/193778553X" rel="nofollow">https://www.amazon.com/Programming-Erlang-Concurrent-Pragmatic-Programmers/dp/193778553X</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.postgresql.org/" rel="nofollow">https://www.postgresql.org/</a></li>
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    <![CDATA[<p>While hearing how Elixir is being used in the Royal Bank of Canada&#39;s Capital Markets, we learned a lot of extra things we didn&#39;t expect! Thanos Vassilakis, head of R&amp;D in the CM group, explained how middle managers talk about “scaling” to mean hiring staff with the goal of using all of their budgets. Not the kind of scaling we typically think about! Thanos identified the biggest problem limiting Elixir&#39;s adoption at large financial institutions and it wasn&#39;t what we expected. He also shared stories of how LiveView greatly out performed React when rendering hundreds of live updating financial charts and, after experimenting with it, the React devs fully adopted LiveView! Lots of great insights and stories in this one!</p>

<p>Show Notes online - <a href="http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/125" rel="nofollow">http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/125</a></p>

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<li><a href="https://phoenixframework.org/blog/phoenix-1.7-released" rel="nofollow">https://phoenixframework.org/blog/phoenix-1.7-released</a> – Phoenix 1.7.0-rc.0 released!</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/chris_mccord/status/1589721565692067840" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/chris_mccord/status/1589721565692067840</a> – Chris McCord&#39;s Twitter announcement</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix/blob/v1.7.0-rc.0/CHANGELOG.md" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix/blob/v1.7.0-rc.0/CHANGELOG.md</a> – Phoenix 1.7.0-rc.0 changelog</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-rqBLjr5Eo" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-rqBLjr5Eo</a> – Chris McCord&#39;s keynote</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/clarkware/status/1587894081572569089" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/clarkware/status/1587894081572569089</a> – Mike Clark shows how params can be added in embedded in Sigil P routes</li>
<li><a href="https://hex.pm/packages/heroicons" rel="nofollow">https://hex.pm/packages/heroicons</a> – Heroicons</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/mtrudel/bandit" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/mtrudel/bandit</a> – Alternative webservers like Bandit become possible</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/bernheisel/status/1589803460320710656" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/bernheisel/status/1589803460320710656</a> – David&#39;s diff of for going to new Phoenix 1.7</li>
<li><a href="https://utils.zest.dev/gendiff" rel="nofollow">https://utils.zest.dev/gendiff</a> – David&#39;s free Diff Generator tool for Phoenix projects</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/josevalim/status/1589738157196869634" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/josevalim/status/1589738157196869634</a> – Jose Valim&#39;s summation of new Phoenix release</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOeONt6Hkf8&list=PLqj39LCvnOWbmaPrkGCAzFMC_FYZUkmSr&index=15" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOeONt6Hkf8&amp;list=PLqj39LCvnOWbmaPrkGCAzFMC_FYZUkmSr&amp;index=15</a> – New batch of ElixirConf 2022 videos were released</li>
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