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Whether you are already experienced with Elixir or just exploring the language, this show is created with you in mind. We discuss community news, Functional Programming, transitioning from OOP, coding conventions, and more.
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Subscribe to join us on this journey!
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  <title>116: Remote Development and Elixir</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Making Elixir work for remote development doesn’t mean the end of localhost development? That’s what Carter Bryden explains as we examine the arguments in favor of remote development.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;In episode 110, we talked about, and rejected, the argument for the “End of Localhost Development”. Carter Bryden joins us to share a perspective from the other side, one in favor of remote development. We learn about the benefits to contractors, PR reviews, giving demos, and how containerizing our development environment even improves local development. We learn about the tools, services, and techniques that make it possible. An interesting look into a different way of developing our favorite language!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Show Notes online - &lt;a href="http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/116" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/116&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Elixir Community News&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.humblebundle.com/books/elixir-programming-pragmatic-programmers-books" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.humblebundle.com/books/elixir-programming-pragmatic-programmers-books&lt;/a&gt; – Elixir Programming Book bundle - Humble Bundle&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/whatyouhide/status/1566774954393305088" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://twitter.com/whatyouhide/status/1566774954393305088&lt;/a&gt; – Upcoming Elixir features&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/pull/12109" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/pull/12109&lt;/a&gt; – PR adding diffs for "mix format --check-formatted"&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/scenicframework/status/1566720982412173312" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://twitter.com/scenicframework/status/1566720982412173312&lt;/a&gt; – Scenic v0.11.0 was released&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://hexdocs.pm/scenic/upgrading_to_v0-11.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://hexdocs.pm/scenic/upgrading_to_v0-11.html&lt;/a&gt; – Scenic upgrade guide&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/dockyard/status/1565769297393135617" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://twitter.com/dockyard/status/1565769297393135617&lt;/a&gt; – DockYard ElixirConf keynote talked about 4 major R&amp;amp;D projects.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://dockyard.com/blog/2022/08/29/dockyard-r-d-beacon-brings-phoenix-speeds-to-your-cms" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://dockyard.com/blog/2022/08/29/dockyard-r-d-beacon-brings-phoenix-speeds-to-your-cms&lt;/a&gt; – DockYard's Beacon CMS project&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/amnicd/status/1563253296101756929" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://twitter.com/amnicd/status/1563253296101756929&lt;/a&gt; – Another example of a mobile app written in Elixir.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://gitlab.com/Nicd/geo-therminator" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://gitlab.com/Nicd/geo-therminator&lt;/a&gt; – Gitlab project of the Android Elixir app&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/98" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/98&lt;/a&gt; – Interview with Dominic Letz about Elixir Desktop project&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/atyborska93/status/1565997307031703553" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://twitter.com/atyborska93/status/1565997307031703553&lt;/a&gt; – Elixir track on Exercism.io is now running Elixir 1.14.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://surface-ui.org/blog/what-s-new-in-surface-0-8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://surface-ui.org/blog/what-s-new-in-surface-0-8&lt;/a&gt; – Surface 0.8.0 was released during the conference&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://github.com/surface-ui/surface/blob/main/CHANGELOG.md#v080-2022-09-01" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://github.com/surface-ui/surface/blob/main/CHANGELOG.md#v080-2022-09-01&lt;/a&gt; – Surface changelog includes "Scoped CSS styles"&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/livebookdev/status/1565434195324936194" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://twitter.com/livebookdev/status/1565434195324936194&lt;/a&gt; – José Valim tweeted demonstration of Livebook's ability to manipulate pipelines using dbg feature&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Do you have some Elixir news to share? Tell us at &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/ThinkingElixir" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@ThinkingElixir&lt;/a&gt; or email at &lt;a href="mailto:show@thinkingelixir.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;show@thinkingelixir.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Discussion Resources&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/110" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/110&lt;/a&gt; – End of Localhost Development?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/CarterBryden/status/1555299999952486401" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://twitter.com/CarterBryden/status/1555299999952486401&lt;/a&gt; – Twitter response to episode prompting interview&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://quantifiedcitizen.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://quantifiedcitizen.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://approximated.app" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://approximated.app&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://github.com/features/codespaces" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://github.com/features/codespaces&lt;/a&gt; – Github CodeSpaces&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://aws.amazon.com/cloud9/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://aws.amazon.com/cloud9/&lt;/a&gt; – Amazon Cloud9&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.gitpod.io/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.gitpod.io/&lt;/a&gt; – Gitpod.io&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/containers" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/containers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/jamestthompson3/nvim-remote-containers" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://github.com/jamestthompson3/nvim-remote-containers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://mosh.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://mosh.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://rails.new/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://rails.new/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Guest Information&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/carterbryden" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://twitter.com/carterbryden&lt;/a&gt; – on Twitter&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://approximated.app/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://approximated.app/&lt;/a&gt; – Solo app Carter mentioned&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="http://quantifiedcitizen.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;http://quantifiedcitizen.com/&lt;/a&gt; – Carter's day job&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="http://indielixir.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;http://indielixir.com&lt;/a&gt; – Carter's hobby Elixir podcast&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Find us online&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Message the show - &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/ThinkingElixir" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@ThinkingElixir&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Email the show - &lt;a href="mailto:show@thinkingelixir.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;show@thinkingelixir.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mark Ericksen - &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/brainlid" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@brainlid&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;David Bernheisel - &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/bernheisel" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@bernheisel&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cade Ward - &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/cadebward" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@cadebward&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>In episode 110, we talked about, and rejected, the argument for the “End of Localhost Development”. Carter Bryden joins us to share a perspective from the other side, one in favor of remote development. We learn about the benefits to contractors, PR reviews, giving demos, and how containerizing our development environment even improves local development. We learn about the tools, services, and techniques that make it possible. An interesting look into a different way of developing our favorite language!</p>

<p>Show Notes online - <a href="http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/116" rel="nofollow">http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/116</a></p>

<p><strong>Elixir Community News</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.humblebundle.com/books/elixir-programming-pragmatic-programmers-books" rel="nofollow">https://www.humblebundle.com/books/elixir-programming-pragmatic-programmers-books</a> – Elixir Programming Book bundle - Humble Bundle</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/whatyouhide/status/1566774954393305088" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/whatyouhide/status/1566774954393305088</a> – Upcoming Elixir features</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/pull/12109" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/pull/12109</a> – PR adding diffs for &quot;mix format --check-formatted&quot;</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/scenicframework/status/1566720982412173312" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/scenicframework/status/1566720982412173312</a> – Scenic v0.11.0 was released</li>
<li><a href="https://hexdocs.pm/scenic/upgrading_to_v0-11.html" rel="nofollow">https://hexdocs.pm/scenic/upgrading_to_v0-11.html</a> – Scenic upgrade guide</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/dockyard/status/1565769297393135617" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/dockyard/status/1565769297393135617</a> – DockYard ElixirConf keynote talked about 4 major R&amp;D projects.</li>
<li><a href="https://dockyard.com/blog/2022/08/29/dockyard-r-d-beacon-brings-phoenix-speeds-to-your-cms" rel="nofollow">https://dockyard.com/blog/2022/08/29/dockyard-r-d-beacon-brings-phoenix-speeds-to-your-cms</a> – DockYard&#39;s Beacon CMS project</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/amnicd/status/1563253296101756929" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/amnicd/status/1563253296101756929</a> – Another example of a mobile app written in Elixir.</li>
<li><a href="https://gitlab.com/Nicd/geo-therminator" rel="nofollow">https://gitlab.com/Nicd/geo-therminator</a> – Gitlab project of the Android Elixir app</li>
<li><a href="https://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/98" rel="nofollow">https://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/98</a> – Interview with Dominic Letz about Elixir Desktop project</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/atyborska93/status/1565997307031703553" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/atyborska93/status/1565997307031703553</a> – Elixir track on Exercism.io is now running Elixir 1.14.</li>
<li><a href="https://surface-ui.org/blog/what-s-new-in-surface-0-8" rel="nofollow">https://surface-ui.org/blog/what-s-new-in-surface-0-8</a> – Surface 0.8.0 was released during the conference</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/surface-ui/surface/blob/main/CHANGELOG.md#v080-2022-09-01" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/surface-ui/surface/blob/main/CHANGELOG.md#v080-2022-09-01</a> – Surface changelog includes &quot;Scoped CSS styles&quot;</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/livebookdev/status/1565434195324936194" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/livebookdev/status/1565434195324936194</a> – José Valim tweeted demonstration of Livebook&#39;s ability to manipulate pipelines using dbg feature</li>
</ul>

<p>Do you have some Elixir news to share? Tell us at <a href="https://twitter.com/ThinkingElixir" rel="nofollow">@ThinkingElixir</a> or email at <a href="mailto:show@thinkingelixir.com" rel="nofollow">show@thinkingelixir.com</a></p>

<p><strong>Discussion Resources</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/110" rel="nofollow">https://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/110</a> – End of Localhost Development?</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/CarterBryden/status/1555299999952486401" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/CarterBryden/status/1555299999952486401</a> – Twitter response to episode prompting interview</li>
<li><a href="https://quantifiedcitizen.com" rel="nofollow">https://quantifiedcitizen.com</a></li>
<li><a href="https://approximated.app" rel="nofollow">https://approximated.app</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/features/codespaces" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/features/codespaces</a> – Github CodeSpaces</li>
<li><a href="https://aws.amazon.com/cloud9/" rel="nofollow">https://aws.amazon.com/cloud9/</a> – Amazon Cloud9</li>
<li><a href="https://www.gitpod.io/" rel="nofollow">https://www.gitpod.io/</a> – Gitpod.io</li>
<li><a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/containers" rel="nofollow">https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/containers</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/jamestthompson3/nvim-remote-containers" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/jamestthompson3/nvim-remote-containers</a></li>
<li><a href="https://mosh.org/" rel="nofollow">https://mosh.org/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://rails.new/" rel="nofollow">https://rails.new/</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Guest Information</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/carterbryden" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/carterbryden</a> – on Twitter</li>
<li><a href="https://approximated.app/" rel="nofollow">https://approximated.app/</a> – Solo app Carter mentioned</li>
<li><a href="http://quantifiedcitizen.com/" rel="nofollow">http://quantifiedcitizen.com/</a> – Carter&#39;s day job</li>
<li><a href="http://indielixir.com" rel="nofollow">http://indielixir.com</a> – Carter&#39;s hobby Elixir podcast</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Find us online</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Message the show - <a href="https://twitter.com/ThinkingElixir" rel="nofollow">@ThinkingElixir</a></li>
<li>Email the show - <a href="mailto:show@thinkingelixir.com" rel="nofollow">show@thinkingelixir.com</a></li>
<li>Mark Ericksen - <a href="https://twitter.com/brainlid" rel="nofollow">@brainlid</a></li>
<li>David Bernheisel - <a href="https://twitter.com/bernheisel" rel="nofollow">@bernheisel</a></li>
<li>Cade Ward - <a href="https://twitter.com/cadebward" rel="nofollow">@cadebward</a></li>
</ul><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://fly.io">Fly.io</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://fly.io">Fly.io is a great place to deploy your next Phoenix application! Check them out!</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In episode 110, we talked about, and rejected, the argument for the “End of Localhost Development”. Carter Bryden joins us to share a perspective from the other side, one in favor of remote development. We learn about the benefits to contractors, PR reviews, giving demos, and how containerizing our development environment even improves local development. We learn about the tools, services, and techniques that make it possible. An interesting look into a different way of developing our favorite language!</p>

<p>Show Notes online - <a href="http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/116" rel="nofollow">http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/116</a></p>

<p><strong>Elixir Community News</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.humblebundle.com/books/elixir-programming-pragmatic-programmers-books" rel="nofollow">https://www.humblebundle.com/books/elixir-programming-pragmatic-programmers-books</a> – Elixir Programming Book bundle - Humble Bundle</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/whatyouhide/status/1566774954393305088" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/whatyouhide/status/1566774954393305088</a> – Upcoming Elixir features</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/pull/12109" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/pull/12109</a> – PR adding diffs for &quot;mix format --check-formatted&quot;</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/scenicframework/status/1566720982412173312" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/scenicframework/status/1566720982412173312</a> – Scenic v0.11.0 was released</li>
<li><a href="https://hexdocs.pm/scenic/upgrading_to_v0-11.html" rel="nofollow">https://hexdocs.pm/scenic/upgrading_to_v0-11.html</a> – Scenic upgrade guide</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/dockyard/status/1565769297393135617" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/dockyard/status/1565769297393135617</a> – DockYard ElixirConf keynote talked about 4 major R&amp;D projects.</li>
<li><a href="https://dockyard.com/blog/2022/08/29/dockyard-r-d-beacon-brings-phoenix-speeds-to-your-cms" rel="nofollow">https://dockyard.com/blog/2022/08/29/dockyard-r-d-beacon-brings-phoenix-speeds-to-your-cms</a> – DockYard&#39;s Beacon CMS project</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/amnicd/status/1563253296101756929" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/amnicd/status/1563253296101756929</a> – Another example of a mobile app written in Elixir.</li>
<li><a href="https://gitlab.com/Nicd/geo-therminator" rel="nofollow">https://gitlab.com/Nicd/geo-therminator</a> – Gitlab project of the Android Elixir app</li>
<li><a href="https://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/98" rel="nofollow">https://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/98</a> – Interview with Dominic Letz about Elixir Desktop project</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/atyborska93/status/1565997307031703553" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/atyborska93/status/1565997307031703553</a> – Elixir track on Exercism.io is now running Elixir 1.14.</li>
<li><a href="https://surface-ui.org/blog/what-s-new-in-surface-0-8" rel="nofollow">https://surface-ui.org/blog/what-s-new-in-surface-0-8</a> – Surface 0.8.0 was released during the conference</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/surface-ui/surface/blob/main/CHANGELOG.md#v080-2022-09-01" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/surface-ui/surface/blob/main/CHANGELOG.md#v080-2022-09-01</a> – Surface changelog includes &quot;Scoped CSS styles&quot;</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/livebookdev/status/1565434195324936194" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/livebookdev/status/1565434195324936194</a> – José Valim tweeted demonstration of Livebook&#39;s ability to manipulate pipelines using dbg feature</li>
</ul>

<p>Do you have some Elixir news to share? Tell us at <a href="https://twitter.com/ThinkingElixir" rel="nofollow">@ThinkingElixir</a> or email at <a href="mailto:show@thinkingelixir.com" rel="nofollow">show@thinkingelixir.com</a></p>

<p><strong>Discussion Resources</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/110" rel="nofollow">https://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/110</a> – End of Localhost Development?</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/CarterBryden/status/1555299999952486401" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/CarterBryden/status/1555299999952486401</a> – Twitter response to episode prompting interview</li>
<li><a href="https://quantifiedcitizen.com" rel="nofollow">https://quantifiedcitizen.com</a></li>
<li><a href="https://approximated.app" rel="nofollow">https://approximated.app</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/features/codespaces" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/features/codespaces</a> – Github CodeSpaces</li>
<li><a href="https://aws.amazon.com/cloud9/" rel="nofollow">https://aws.amazon.com/cloud9/</a> – Amazon Cloud9</li>
<li><a href="https://www.gitpod.io/" rel="nofollow">https://www.gitpod.io/</a> – Gitpod.io</li>
<li><a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/containers" rel="nofollow">https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/containers</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/jamestthompson3/nvim-remote-containers" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/jamestthompson3/nvim-remote-containers</a></li>
<li><a href="https://mosh.org/" rel="nofollow">https://mosh.org/</a></li>
<li><a href="https://rails.new/" rel="nofollow">https://rails.new/</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Guest Information</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/carterbryden" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/carterbryden</a> – on Twitter</li>
<li><a href="https://approximated.app/" rel="nofollow">https://approximated.app/</a> – Solo app Carter mentioned</li>
<li><a href="http://quantifiedcitizen.com/" rel="nofollow">http://quantifiedcitizen.com/</a> – Carter&#39;s day job</li>
<li><a href="http://indielixir.com" rel="nofollow">http://indielixir.com</a> – Carter&#39;s hobby Elixir podcast</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Find us online</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Message the show - <a href="https://twitter.com/ThinkingElixir" rel="nofollow">@ThinkingElixir</a></li>
<li>Email the show - <a href="mailto:show@thinkingelixir.com" rel="nofollow">show@thinkingelixir.com</a></li>
<li>Mark Ericksen - <a href="https://twitter.com/brainlid" rel="nofollow">@brainlid</a></li>
<li>David Bernheisel - <a href="https://twitter.com/bernheisel" rel="nofollow">@bernheisel</a></li>
<li>Cade Ward - <a href="https://twitter.com/cadebward" rel="nofollow">@cadebward</a></li>
</ul><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://fly.io">Fly.io</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://fly.io">Fly.io is a great place to deploy your next Phoenix application! Check them out!</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>110: The End of Localhost Development?</title>
  <link>https://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/110</link>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 04:15:00 -0600</pubDate>
  <author>ThinkingElixir.com</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Is the “end of localhost development” inevitable? How does that apply to Elixir and Phoenix projects? We think it's more likely they are trying to solve the wrong problem.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>51:13</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Some people excitedly talk about the “end of localhost development” when developer machines move to the cloud. Presumably this is better because our environments, infrastructure and projects are so complex that they need this additional layer of abstraction just to keep teams productive. Is this our inevitable future? Or is this trying to solve the wrong problem? We talk about what we think this movement is about and how it relates to us. Elixir projects can potentially be much simpler with fewer external dependencies making this move to the cloud less compelling. Join us as we contemplate how Elixir and Phoenix might fare in a world with no “localhost development”.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Show Notes online - &lt;a href="http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/110" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/110&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Elixir Community News&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/whatyouhide/status/1549295894721445888" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://twitter.com/whatyouhide/status/1549295894721445888&lt;/a&gt; – Explanation thread about how new Kernel.dbg function works.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/whatyouhide/status/1551463778893631488" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://twitter.com/whatyouhide/status/1551463778893631488&lt;/a&gt; – New Kernel.dbg/0 prints the current bindings.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/sorentwo/status/1550155422438494211" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://twitter.com/sorentwo/status/1550155422438494211&lt;/a&gt; – Oban v2.13.0 and Oban Pro v0.12.0 were released.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://getoban.pro/docs/pro/changelog.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://getoban.pro/docs/pro/changelog.html&lt;/a&gt; – Oban Pro changelog&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://hexdocs.pm/oban/changelog.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://hexdocs.pm/oban/changelog.html&lt;/a&gt; – Oban OSS changelog&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://hexdocs.pm/kino/Kino.Process.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://hexdocs.pm/kino/Kino.Process.html&lt;/a&gt; – New Kino.Process module added to Kino 0.6.2.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://github.com/elixir-plug/plug/pull/1111" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://github.com/elixir-plug/plug/pull/1111&lt;/a&gt; – Plug gets a new “Copy to markdown” button&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/MachinesAreUs/status/1549072505423503363" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://twitter.com/MachinesAreUs/status/1549072505423503363&lt;/a&gt; – New tool for automatically detecting cyclic dependencies between modules in Elixir?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://github.com/elixir-ecto/ecto_sql/pull/428" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://github.com/elixir-ecto/ecto_sql/pull/428&lt;/a&gt; – EctoSQL gets a new pg_advisory_lock configuration option for Postgres users&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://elixir-makeup.github.io/makeup_demo/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://elixir-makeup.github.io/makeup_demo/&lt;/a&gt; – Make-up's new demo pages showing off how it highlights code.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://github.com/elixir-makeup/makeup" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://github.com/elixir-makeup/makeup&lt;/a&gt; – The makeup project&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Do you have some Elixir news to share? Tell us at &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/ThinkingElixir" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@ThinkingElixir&lt;/a&gt; or email at &lt;a href="mailto:show@thinkingelixir.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;show@thinkingelixir.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Discussion Resources&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31669762" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31669762&lt;/a&gt; – HackerNews post that re-ignited this discussion&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://dx.tips/the-end-of-localhost" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://dx.tips/the-end-of-localhost&lt;/a&gt; – The HN post which lays out he arguments&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW-SOdj4Kkk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW-SOdj4Kkk&lt;/a&gt; – Jonathan Blow - Preventing the Collapse of Civilization (English only)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.laurencegellert.com/2015/08/is-localhost-development-obsolete/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.laurencegellert.com/2015/08/is-localhost-development-obsolete/&lt;/a&gt; – Discussion dates back to at least 2015&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/MarioWhoWrites/status/1542294811067109376" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://twitter.com/MarioWhoWrites/status/1542294811067109376&lt;/a&gt; – It feels like DevOps at the language level&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/105" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/105&lt;/a&gt; – Recent interview with Uku Taht at Plausible Analytics.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://hanselminutes.com/847/engineering-stack-overflow-with-roberta-arcoverde" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://hanselminutes.com/847/engineering-stack-overflow-with-roberta-arcoverde&lt;/a&gt; – Stack Overflow infrastructure described&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Find us online&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Message the show - &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/ThinkingElixir" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@ThinkingElixir&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Email the show - &lt;a href="mailto:show@thinkingelixir.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;show@thinkingelixir.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mark Ericksen - &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/brainlid" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@brainlid&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;David Bernheisel - &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/bernheisel" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@bernheisel&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cade Ward - &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/cadebward" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@cadebward&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>Some people excitedly talk about the “end of localhost development” when developer machines move to the cloud. Presumably this is better because our environments, infrastructure and projects are so complex that they need this additional layer of abstraction just to keep teams productive. Is this our inevitable future? Or is this trying to solve the wrong problem? We talk about what we think this movement is about and how it relates to us. Elixir projects can potentially be much simpler with fewer external dependencies making this move to the cloud less compelling. Join us as we contemplate how Elixir and Phoenix might fare in a world with no “localhost development”.</p>

<p>Show Notes online - <a href="http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/110" rel="nofollow">http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/110</a></p>

<p><strong>Elixir Community News</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/whatyouhide/status/1549295894721445888" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/whatyouhide/status/1549295894721445888</a> – Explanation thread about how new Kernel.dbg function works.</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/whatyouhide/status/1551463778893631488" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/whatyouhide/status/1551463778893631488</a> – New Kernel.dbg/0 prints the current bindings.</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/sorentwo/status/1550155422438494211" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/sorentwo/status/1550155422438494211</a> – Oban v2.13.0 and Oban Pro v0.12.0 were released.</li>
<li><a href="https://getoban.pro/docs/pro/changelog.html" rel="nofollow">https://getoban.pro/docs/pro/changelog.html</a> – Oban Pro changelog</li>
<li><a href="https://hexdocs.pm/oban/changelog.html" rel="nofollow">https://hexdocs.pm/oban/changelog.html</a> – Oban OSS changelog</li>
<li><a href="https://hexdocs.pm/kino/Kino.Process.html" rel="nofollow">https://hexdocs.pm/kino/Kino.Process.html</a> – New Kino.Process module added to Kino 0.6.2.</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/elixir-plug/plug/pull/1111" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/elixir-plug/plug/pull/1111</a> – Plug gets a new “Copy to markdown” button</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/MachinesAreUs/status/1549072505423503363" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/MachinesAreUs/status/1549072505423503363</a> – New tool for automatically detecting cyclic dependencies between modules in Elixir?</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/elixir-ecto/ecto_sql/pull/428" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/elixir-ecto/ecto_sql/pull/428</a> – EctoSQL gets a new pg_advisory_lock configuration option for Postgres users</li>
<li><a href="https://elixir-makeup.github.io/makeup_demo/" rel="nofollow">https://elixir-makeup.github.io/makeup_demo/</a> – Make-up&#39;s new demo pages showing off how it highlights code.</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/elixir-makeup/makeup" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/elixir-makeup/makeup</a> – The makeup project</li>
</ul>

<p>Do you have some Elixir news to share? Tell us at <a href="https://twitter.com/ThinkingElixir" rel="nofollow">@ThinkingElixir</a> or email at <a href="mailto:show@thinkingelixir.com" rel="nofollow">show@thinkingelixir.com</a></p>

<p><strong>Discussion Resources</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31669762" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31669762</a> – HackerNews post that re-ignited this discussion</li>
<li><a href="https://dx.tips/the-end-of-localhost" rel="nofollow">https://dx.tips/the-end-of-localhost</a> – The HN post which lays out he arguments</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW-SOdj4Kkk" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW-SOdj4Kkk</a> – Jonathan Blow - Preventing the Collapse of Civilization (English only)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.laurencegellert.com/2015/08/is-localhost-development-obsolete/" rel="nofollow">https://www.laurencegellert.com/2015/08/is-localhost-development-obsolete/</a> – Discussion dates back to at least 2015</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/MarioWhoWrites/status/1542294811067109376" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/MarioWhoWrites/status/1542294811067109376</a> – It feels like DevOps at the language level</li>
<li><a href="https://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/105" rel="nofollow">https://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/105</a> – Recent interview with Uku Taht at Plausible Analytics.</li>
<li><a href="https://hanselminutes.com/847/engineering-stack-overflow-with-roberta-arcoverde" rel="nofollow">https://hanselminutes.com/847/engineering-stack-overflow-with-roberta-arcoverde</a> – Stack Overflow infrastructure described</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Find us online</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Message the show - <a href="https://twitter.com/ThinkingElixir" rel="nofollow">@ThinkingElixir</a></li>
<li>Email the show - <a href="mailto:show@thinkingelixir.com" rel="nofollow">show@thinkingelixir.com</a></li>
<li>Mark Ericksen - <a href="https://twitter.com/brainlid" rel="nofollow">@brainlid</a></li>
<li>David Bernheisel - <a href="https://twitter.com/bernheisel" rel="nofollow">@bernheisel</a></li>
<li>Cade Ward - <a href="https://twitter.com/cadebward" rel="nofollow">@cadebward</a></li>
</ul><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://fly.io">Fly.io</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://fly.io">Fly.io is a great place to deploy your next Phoenix application! Check them out!</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Some people excitedly talk about the “end of localhost development” when developer machines move to the cloud. Presumably this is better because our environments, infrastructure and projects are so complex that they need this additional layer of abstraction just to keep teams productive. Is this our inevitable future? Or is this trying to solve the wrong problem? We talk about what we think this movement is about and how it relates to us. Elixir projects can potentially be much simpler with fewer external dependencies making this move to the cloud less compelling. Join us as we contemplate how Elixir and Phoenix might fare in a world with no “localhost development”.</p>

<p>Show Notes online - <a href="http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/110" rel="nofollow">http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/110</a></p>

<p><strong>Elixir Community News</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/whatyouhide/status/1549295894721445888" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/whatyouhide/status/1549295894721445888</a> – Explanation thread about how new Kernel.dbg function works.</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/whatyouhide/status/1551463778893631488" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/whatyouhide/status/1551463778893631488</a> – New Kernel.dbg/0 prints the current bindings.</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/sorentwo/status/1550155422438494211" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/sorentwo/status/1550155422438494211</a> – Oban v2.13.0 and Oban Pro v0.12.0 were released.</li>
<li><a href="https://getoban.pro/docs/pro/changelog.html" rel="nofollow">https://getoban.pro/docs/pro/changelog.html</a> – Oban Pro changelog</li>
<li><a href="https://hexdocs.pm/oban/changelog.html" rel="nofollow">https://hexdocs.pm/oban/changelog.html</a> – Oban OSS changelog</li>
<li><a href="https://hexdocs.pm/kino/Kino.Process.html" rel="nofollow">https://hexdocs.pm/kino/Kino.Process.html</a> – New Kino.Process module added to Kino 0.6.2.</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/elixir-plug/plug/pull/1111" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/elixir-plug/plug/pull/1111</a> – Plug gets a new “Copy to markdown” button</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/MachinesAreUs/status/1549072505423503363" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/MachinesAreUs/status/1549072505423503363</a> – New tool for automatically detecting cyclic dependencies between modules in Elixir?</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/elixir-ecto/ecto_sql/pull/428" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/elixir-ecto/ecto_sql/pull/428</a> – EctoSQL gets a new pg_advisory_lock configuration option for Postgres users</li>
<li><a href="https://elixir-makeup.github.io/makeup_demo/" rel="nofollow">https://elixir-makeup.github.io/makeup_demo/</a> – Make-up&#39;s new demo pages showing off how it highlights code.</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/elixir-makeup/makeup" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/elixir-makeup/makeup</a> – The makeup project</li>
</ul>

<p>Do you have some Elixir news to share? Tell us at <a href="https://twitter.com/ThinkingElixir" rel="nofollow">@ThinkingElixir</a> or email at <a href="mailto:show@thinkingelixir.com" rel="nofollow">show@thinkingelixir.com</a></p>

<p><strong>Discussion Resources</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31669762" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31669762</a> – HackerNews post that re-ignited this discussion</li>
<li><a href="https://dx.tips/the-end-of-localhost" rel="nofollow">https://dx.tips/the-end-of-localhost</a> – The HN post which lays out he arguments</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW-SOdj4Kkk" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW-SOdj4Kkk</a> – Jonathan Blow - Preventing the Collapse of Civilization (English only)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.laurencegellert.com/2015/08/is-localhost-development-obsolete/" rel="nofollow">https://www.laurencegellert.com/2015/08/is-localhost-development-obsolete/</a> – Discussion dates back to at least 2015</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/MarioWhoWrites/status/1542294811067109376" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/MarioWhoWrites/status/1542294811067109376</a> – It feels like DevOps at the language level</li>
<li><a href="https://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/105" rel="nofollow">https://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/105</a> – Recent interview with Uku Taht at Plausible Analytics.</li>
<li><a href="https://hanselminutes.com/847/engineering-stack-overflow-with-roberta-arcoverde" rel="nofollow">https://hanselminutes.com/847/engineering-stack-overflow-with-roberta-arcoverde</a> – Stack Overflow infrastructure described</li>
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